Matty Healy's mom isn't going to s--t talk Taylor Swift under the table.
Nearly a week after the release of The Tortured Poets Department—an album full of songs presumed by fans to be about The 1975 frontman—Denise Welch was able to make light of an otherwise tense situation between her son and the "Fortnight" singer. In fact, she had a quippy response when asked by a fellow anchor if she knew Taylor had an album out.
"I wasn't aware she had an album out at all," the TV host joked on the April 25 episode of British talk show Loose Women, on which she often acts as a panelist. "I haven't heard anything about it."
And after her comment earned some laughs from the audience, Denise—who has met Taylor before and posted about it on her Instagram—said more earnestly, "I wish her all the best."
After TTPD dropped on April 19, fans of Taylor were quick to note that many of the album's tracks appear to be about Matty, whom she dated for a few weeks last summer, rather than former boyfriend of six years Joe Alwyn. Amid fans' speculation, Matty provided his thoughts on the record earlier this week.
"I haven't really listened to that much of it," the 34-year-old told paparazzi in Los Angeles April 24. "But I'm sure it's good."
Meanwhile, Matty's aunt Debbie Dedes also provided her two cents on the album—assuring that her nephew will not be tortured by the lyrics whenever he does give it a listen.
"Nothing surprises him anymore," she told the Daily Mail April 19. "He will not be surprised by the song. Him and her know what went on."
And now that Matty is in a relationship with model Gabriette Bechtel and Taylor is feeling so high school with Kansas City Chiefs player Travis Kelce, Debbie reiterated that the "Somebody Else" singer is focusing on his own life.
"He's very happy in his new relationship," Debbie added. "I'm sure he'll be focusing on that."
For her part, Taylor is finding catharsis after creating this album.
"This writer is of the firm belief that our tears become holy in the form of ink on a page," she wrote on Instagram after dropping the album. "Once we have spoken our saddest story, we can be free of it."
Read on for all of the sad stories Taylor spoke in TTPD.